He’d started this U3A play reading group that met here. He’d organised it really well. I was the tea lady for that because I didn’t want to do plays but I had joined the U3A. Well I did start off with that but we left it and became an independent group, a sort of singing for pleasure group, nothing to do with .., I mean I played the guitar for the accompaniment but it was separate from my guitar playing lot up in Ham and we used to meet fortnightly, alternate fortnights. It was play reading or singing, Kenneth came to the singing as well because he enjoyed that.