That Mr Beard who used to be the Vicar at the Protestant Church, over the Common, St Andrews, he was the vicar there but for some reason as we were all Catholics he took to us and we used to go in the evening and play snooker.  He had a full-sized table on top of the table in his little bit, not in the church, in the vestry and it was on top of the table and he used to have a lot of choir boys there doing choir practice and we used to go in there and play snooker until they finished choir practice and came in and they went and played.  But he remembered us for years, actually he’s the first bloke, he took four of us, he took us to Portsmouth on the train, and we had never done those sort of journeys.  It was a long way away – where’s Portsmouth? and he took us and he paid for us all day four lads, there was four of us, both of us two brothers, next door Mrs Bennett’s two they came and he gave us a real good day’s out.  It was the first time I’d seen a white £5 note.  No one had seen the big white ones, the first time I’d seen one of them.  He must have given us a meal, I think we had a meal and all and that’s where I saw the note, he must have paid already for on the trains.  Old Beard he was a nice bloke I liked him, we used to – we called him, he looked like Friar Tuck but when my brother got married and he had his girl christened there at St Andrews, and he was a Catholic, when he saw us turn up he went “oh my boys”.